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Post by mikkel on Nov 8, 2020 13:08:37 GMT -5
a plant I got from B.Voss
this is a seedling from INRA Corse
it froze down to the ground last winter. but resprouted from the roots. I will keep it inside this year as it is the last one from once about 100. Roots are very strong. The root ball is about 30cm deep and 15-20 cm wide and very dense. Much stronger than other seedlings I have seen.
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Post by poncirusguy on Nov 8, 2020 14:35:00 GMT -5
Are you talking about the leave in the upper right hand corner.
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Post by ilya11 on Nov 9, 2020 4:04:33 GMT -5
These additional leaflets occur occasionally in young papeda seedlings.
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Post by mikkel on Nov 9, 2020 4:33:09 GMT -5
I guess you are talking about the other post ?
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Post by ilya11 on Nov 9, 2020 8:14:12 GMT -5
Exactly, I have seen several such cases among Ichang Lemon seedlings, but eventually everything become quite normal.
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Post by mikkel on Nov 9, 2020 13:24:51 GMT -5
Don`t you think that it could be a hybrid? My plant was supposed to be a pure Ichang papeda not a Ichang Lemon.
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Post by ilya11 on Nov 9, 2020 17:12:00 GMT -5
It could be, but abnormal leaves occur in papeda type seedlings.
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Post by Sylvain on Nov 11, 2020 6:33:10 GMT -5
> a plant I got from B.Voss... this is a seedling from INRA Corse > My plant was supposed to be a pure Ichang papeda.... Ichang papeda is highly monoembryonic and then don't come true-to-type. That is why so many people have very different so called "Ichang papeda". I don't think many people have true Ichang papeda out of China.
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Post by mikkel on Nov 11, 2020 9:10:24 GMT -5
but these plants are Khasi Papeda, not Ichang papeda....
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Post by ilya11 on Nov 11, 2020 9:42:42 GMT -5
> a plant I got from B.Voss... this is a seedling from INRA Corse > My plant was supposed to be a pure Ichang papeda.... Ichang papeda is highly monoembryonic and then don't come true-to-type. That is why so many people have very different so called "Ichang papeda". I don't think many people have true Ichang papeda out of China. Monoembryonic real species come true-to-type when self pollinated, that is a way how they propagate themselves in nature.
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Post by Sylvain on Nov 11, 2020 12:11:53 GMT -5
> but these plants are Khasi Papeda, not Ichang papeda.... Yes, you are right. It was a personal thinking about "a pure Ichang papeda". > Monoembryonic real species come true-to-type when self pollinated, that is a way how they propagate themselves in nature. Yes, that's why I precised «out of China». Out of China, you must get scions which would be crazy because of HLB or buy cleaned scions from an institute like INRA or UCR. For most of us, we exchange seeds and we have many citrus species. That's why (I presume) we can see many different forms of "pure Ichang papeda".
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Post by mikkel on Nov 12, 2020 8:50:50 GMT -5
I think confusion is perfect. We are talking about 3 different species here... The pictures above show Khasi Papedas. The other thread is about an Ichang Papeda with an second leaflet which led me to the assumption it might be a hybrid with something with poncirus ancestry. But I am not sure about that. But it wouldn`t be out of the blue because it is a seedling. I said I is supposed to be a pure Ichang papeda because it is not an intended hybrid... Both the Ichang Papeda and the Khasi Papeda seedling came from INRA.
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Post by Sylvain on Nov 13, 2020 7:37:09 GMT -5
> Both the Ichang Papeda and the Khasi Papeda seedling came from INRA. OK, but as you say "seedling" I presume you bought them as seeds... Is the Khasi Papeda polyembryonnic?
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Post by mikkel on Nov 13, 2020 14:01:40 GMT -5
no
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roberto
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Best Regards from Vienna Roberto
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Post by roberto on Nov 17, 2020 5:33:40 GMT -5
Sylvain, from where did you get your Khasi Papeda?
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