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Post by lebmung on Apr 12, 2020 16:36:14 GMT -5
A red Fautrime would be nice... I am planning to do that now, I have flowers of Faustrime and of the deep red blood looking Hybrid LM X DS-19 opening soon. I will make a controlled pollination, hope will get some seeds in the fall. I will keep you posted.
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Post by till on Apr 13, 2020 2:32:26 GMT -5
I have crossed Sweet Palestinian Lime with Swingle 5 Star. It seems that I had no zygotic seedlings. But other may have more luck. Just recently, I pollinated Meyer Lemon with Red Fingerlime and with Chinotto, and Red Finger Lime with Poncirus (and some other stuff...) Nive that others also try to experiment with Fingerlime.
By the way, you can dry fresh pollen and store it in the refrigerator at about -20°C for at least one year.
The pollination procedure that you, David, describe, is certainly the most professional method. But I read somewhere in Luther Burbanks works that it can be simplified. Luther Burbank usually did not castrate the flowers and did not cover them. He just took care that he pollinated before the honey bees, i. e. early in the morning (or late in evening). He wrote - but not with reference to Citrus - that pollen germinates within about 20min so that the pollen intentionally applied to the flowers will in all likelihood that which fertilizes the flowers. He admitted that this is not a 100% safe method but wrote it were the most efficiant. Well, when you usually have 40 000 projects at once as he did... I use the simplified method of Luther Burbank on Sorbus hybrids and Citrus. And I had plenty of hybrids. It is of cause only then a good method when you can easily recognize the hybrids you produce and discern them from seedlings from open pollination. My Sorbus hybrids usually have a definitly different leaf form than their parents. And my Poncirus hybrids are all trifoliate. So I need not know in advance that a fruit contains only hybrid seeds I just check what looks like a hybrid when seeds have germinated.
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Post by lebmung on Apr 13, 2020 15:45:26 GMT -5
I have crossed Sweet Palestinian Lime with Swingle 5 Star. It seems that I had no zygotic seedlings. But other may have more luck. Just recently, I pollinated Meyer Lemon with Red Fingerlime and with Chinotto, and Red Finger Lime with Poncirus (and some other stuff...) Nive that others also try to experiment with Fingerlime. By the way, you can dry fresh pollen and store it in the refrigerator at about -20°C for at least one year. The pollination procedure that you, David, describe, is certainly the most professional method. But I read somewhere in Luther Burbanks works that it can be simplified. Luther Burbank usually did not castrate the flowers and did not cover them. He just took care that he pollinated before the honey bees, i. e. early in the morning (or late in evening). He wrote - but not with reference to Citrus - that pollen germinates within about 20min so that the pollen intentionally applied to the flowers will in all likelihood that which fertilizes the flowers. He admitted that this is not a 100% safe method but wrote it were the most efficiant. Well, when you usually have 40 000 projects at once as he did... I use the simplified method of Luther Burbank on Sorbus hybrids and Citrus. And I had plenty of hybrids. It is of cause only then a good method when you can easily recognize the hybrids you produce and discern them from seedlings from open pollination. My Sorbus hybrids usually have a definitly different leaf form than their parents. And my Poncirus hybrids are all trifoliate. So I need not know in advance that a fruit contains only hybrid seeds I just check what looks like a hybrid when seeds have germinated. What I do is cut the flower before opening inspect for pollen with a magnifier, then pollinate it. I cover it with a piece of paper in form of a cylinder and hang a name. Easy and fast for few flowers. Amoa 8 a red clementine opened flowers, I will cross it with yuzu, satsuma and keraji, probably tomorrow. Would be nice to have a red yuzu.
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Post by ilya11 on Apr 13, 2020 16:42:12 GMT -5
Amoa8 is not a clementine, it is another tangor from MoroxAvana cross. It is a nucellar variety.
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Post by lebmung on Apr 14, 2020 16:28:26 GMT -5
Amoa8 is not a clementine, it is another tangor from MoroxAvana cross. It is a nucellar variety. "A clementine (Citrus × clementina) is a tangor, a citrus fruit hybrid between a willowleaf mandarin orange (C. × deliciosa) and a sweet orange (C. × sinensis)" Amoa 8 is hybrid between Moro orange x Avana mandarin, created at the CRA Istituto Sperimentale per Agrumicoltura in Acireale, in 2004.
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Post by till on Apr 20, 2020 8:10:03 GMT -5
It seems that at least the Italians call everything "Clementine" that is an orange x mandarine cross. Is this also the interenational accepted normenclature?
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Post by ilya11 on Apr 20, 2020 17:25:43 GMT -5
I don't think so.
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