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Post by david on Jul 13, 2019 15:38:15 GMT -5
Hurricane Barry has taken my good friend from me. About 12 years ago I grafted flying dragon to a vigorous standard poncirus to grow for a seed tree. Since then it has grown and produced seed for me for about 8 years. Barry blew down my friend. He was about 3 inches at the trunk and about 10 feet tall. Had a pretty good bench at the graft. Broken cleen off at the bench. When the wind and rain stops I will clean it up. It was loaded with fruit. I am going to pick the fruit (still green) but I think it is too far away from being mature enough to have viable seed. I am pretty sure the fruit will not mature off the tree. No flying dragon seed this year a the loss of an old friend. Thanks Barry.
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Post by Kumin on Jul 13, 2019 17:14:43 GMT -5
Sorry about your loss, do you have suitable rootstock to propagate replacements?
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Post by david on Jul 13, 2019 17:20:44 GMT -5
Yes I have poncirus to graft to. I will miss not having flying dragon seed to plant this year. It will take several years to grow a replacement that will bear fruit. I may be able to purchase/trade for flying dragon while I grow a replacment.
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Post by isaac1 on Jul 14, 2019 2:03:17 GMT -5
Maybe you can re-graft from what you have left using citrus topworking grafting techniques
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Post by david on Jul 14, 2019 6:14:35 GMT -5
It is possible. The stump, below the bench is poncirus, and will send up shoots. I will graft FD onto the shoots. It will be quite some time till I get fruit. A work in progress.
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DNoyau
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Romans-sur-Isère, France
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Post by DNoyau on Jul 18, 2019 16:41:57 GMT -5
I am sorry that you lost your tree, but as for seeds from unripe fruits, it may be worth trying: two years ago (on Sept. 3, 2017) I collected seeds from unripe Poncirus trifoliata fruits in Paris (not flying dragon though). The seeds were well-formed. I planted them almost right after collecting the fruit and they germinated very fast (Oct. 10, 2017) and started growing well too. Unfortunately I was very unexperienced and I lost them to stupid mistakes (I kept them inside the appartment, on a radiator → too much heat, too much watering, too little light). The heat from the radiator might be the reason why they germinated that fast, but the seeds were certainly viable. Here is what the fruit looked like after seed removal (to give you an idea of how unripe it was): I don’t know how unripe your fruits are (July isn’t exactly September, but I live in a West European climate, which is probably less citrus-friendly than yours, so the actual difference might be less than it looks).
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Post by david on Jul 18, 2019 16:57:23 GMT -5
Wow. Never have I tried to retrieve seeds from green poncirus. I have the fruit and will give it a shot. I raise FD & standard poncirus each year. I have waited until the fruit was mature as that was the way I was taught to do it.
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Post by david on Jul 18, 2019 17:13:04 GMT -5
Thank you for posting. Those pics indicate that your fruit was really green .... in more ways than one. Poncirus is mature on the tree about Sept 1. July is early but worth a try.
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Post by david on Jul 18, 2019 17:14:55 GMT -5
How about some input from other folks. Anyone ever planted non mature poncirus?
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Post by Laaz on Jul 18, 2019 17:40:42 GMT -5
If the seeds are are full size, no reason why they won't germinate.
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Post by david on Jul 18, 2019 18:01:20 GMT -5
I shall put them in the bed tomorrow.
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Post by david on Jul 22, 2019 11:25:18 GMT -5
I did put them in the bed. I was not impressed with the look of the seed but I wanted to test this out. The seed would have mature about Sept. They were pulled off the tree the day after Barry killed their mother. In the ground now so I will see what happens. Results coming.
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Post by david on Jul 22, 2019 18:26:49 GMT -5
Put Swingle in the ground too. Found a couple of fruit on the ground. Seeds look small and really imature....I opine that they are not going to germanate....we shall see.
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Post by david on Jul 28, 2019 18:44:48 GMT -5
Follow up. Put seeds from imature fruit in the ground on the 19th of July. Today is the 29th.....no action. Dug up a couple of seed....not rotted but not swelling. Will check again in 10 days.
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Post by Kumin on Jul 31, 2019 4:13:18 GMT -5
In the past I had Clementine fruit pollinated by Poncirus that dropped prematurely. The seeds were small, but had developed a thin seed coat. Approximately 80% of the seeds germinated rather quickly. I suspect planting the seeds without delay may be of importance to get immature seeds to germinate.
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