ID Kishu mandarin

[jibro]

I have one mandarin from Adavo nursery in Czech rep. labeled as Kishumikan and I am not sure if it is really Kishu or other variety. I found that my Kishumikan flowering  only on very short new branches without any leaves unlike my satsumas, they have flowers on longer new branches with several leaves. Can someone confirm that his Kishu has the same flowers on very short branches without leaves?

Fruits are more rounded, ripening in late December or January and the taste is not sweet or particularly good, but this may be due my cold climate and short vegetation period.

More photos are in this article (on the bottom of the page): citrusy.info/kishu-mikan-citrus-kinokuni/

[Sylvain]

Kishu mikan means kishu mandarin.

[jibro]

I know that, but I am asking if my Kishu mikan looks like other Kishu from different source than Adavo...like Seedles Kishu from USA

[Laaz]

The leaves & growth habit do look like my Kishu,

[jibro]

Thanks, can you confirm ripening in December or January too? The fruits in this video: youtu.be/9PO-EnDjEfs?t=427

seems to me smaller and much more flattened than my Kishu fruits.

Some fruits from my tree are 5 cm ( 2 inches) in diameter...

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[poncirusguy]

Your tree is very young and will produce much better tasting fruit with age.  It looks very nice.

[jibro]

I am not sure about it I will try keep it in the greenhouse whole season this time and if fruits will have still bellow average taste, I will graft some of my non-fruiting seedlings into the crown. I hope it will accelerate their flowering, I have already 4 grafts of Clem-yuz and Ventura lemandarin on this tree.

[sc4001992]

Calif Kishu

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[jibro]

We got our first snow today and Kishu mikan is luckily almost ripe. It was in greenhouse whole season this year, the fruits ripened a month earlier and have a better taste than in previous years, Brix 16° but the taste is still a little bit more sour than sweet...

I am still not sure if this is a true Kishu, the shape of fruits is different than Kishu from others...

[sc4001992]

Your Kishu seems to have a much thicker skin than the ones I have seen here in USA. 
Here's a photo of my Kishu cut in half.

[jibro]

You are right but it may be caused by my colder climate, fertilization or by rootstock (my Kishu is grafted onto Citrumelo Swingle) etc

Can you please check next spring where flowers appears?

A. on very short peduncle without any new leaves

B. or on the end of fresh new branch with 3 - 4 new leaves

Thank you.

Your Kyomi fruit looks really nice and big Does it taste good?

[sc4001992]

Here's some photo.        
    


     

[jibro]

Thank you for help, at this time with fruits is hard to tell, I found video with Kishu in bloom and it looks like most of the flowers are the same as on my Kishu

"A. on very short peduncle without any new leaves "

[Vitalii]

Jibro. Adavo sells Kishu-Mikan, probably it's a Honikan mandarin?

[jibro]

Adavo sells both Kishu mikan and Honikan, Radoslav asks about this variety on other forum and they found that this variety was sent to former Yugoslavia as Honikan:

tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=35322.msg371920#msg371920

I found an article about the origin of  Hon Mikan in Japan but of course, I am not sure if exactly this Hon mikan was sent to Yugoslavia and what is Honikan in Adavo, but it is most likely from former Yugoslavia.

www.shizuoka-bunkazai.jp/blog/201412/post-19.html

A type of mandarin orange that was introduced from China during the Kamakura period, called "hon mikan" (Kishu mandarin), it has a strong scent and is characterized by bearing small seeded fruits.
It was designated as a natural monument in Shizuoka Prefecture on March 14, 1950 because it is valuable for understanding the origin of mandarin oranges in the Shizuoka region.According to tradition, Ieyasu Tokugawa, a great man, planted a potted mandarin orange donated by Kishu (currently Wakayama Prefecture, the lord of the lord at that time was Mr. Asano) around the castle tower of Sunpu Castle when he was in Sunpu Castle.

Interesting is that this very old Hon mikan tree has 3cm long thorns, I do not know if Honikan (Adavo) has thorns but I want to get this variety too, I may have more information in future.