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Post by pagnr on Jun 3, 2022 19:25:28 GMT -5
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Post by pissp on Jun 4, 2022 10:07:46 GMT -5
Cool find - thanks for posting! Interesting that its a cross with c. inodora. I am curious what the impetus for its development was - anyone have an idea? Just a fun new cultivar?
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Post by pissp on Jun 4, 2022 10:13:04 GMT -5
This also led me down a rabbit hole and I found on the 2020-2021 FDAC annual report a recent (2020) hybrid "Erem X Shek US 3-67" (desert lime x shekwahsa). I can't find any more info on it but it sure sounds interesting!
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Post by pagnr on Jun 5, 2022 19:31:08 GMT -5
I found on the 2020-2021 FDAC annual report a recent (2020) hybrid "Erem X Shek US 3-67" (desert lime x shekwahsa).
Thats sounds like an interesting combo. Yes it seems to be listed in the collection, but not much other info.
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Post by citrange on Jun 6, 2022 17:04:20 GMT -5
I have been growing seedlings from C. inodora for several years and now have a number of fruiting plants. The species hybridises easily as many seedlings are clearly different from the original plant. These are not controlled crosses but I have many citrus varieties in close proximity in my greenhouse. The fruits produced are similar to finger limes but, like C.inodora, are noticeably less sour. The plants grow vigorously and usually start flowering after 3 or 4 years. They are more open in form and less of a thorny tangled mess than true finger limes. Like C. inodora, most plants produce yellow fruit at maturity, just as described in this article, but some have produced red-skinned fruit. I assume these are a cross with a finger lime because it is the only other citrus with this characteristic in my collection. Some double thorns are produced - a unique feature from C. inodora - but often one half of the pair is much smaller than the other.
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Post by pagnr on Jun 7, 2022 1:44:41 GMT -5
"C. inodora... The species hybridises easily as many seedlings are clearly different from the original plant."
It sounds like a worry for the conservation of this rare species in the wild, or more so in Arboretum collections.
I have pretty much noticed the same thing with C inodora, very variable seedlings, mainly from a nearby C,australasica Finger Lime.
Also got red fruited inodora hybrid, pretty sure that wasn't a Red Finger lime cross. Suspect that inodora also has red genes in there.
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Post by citrange on Jun 7, 2022 10:47:28 GMT -5
Suspect that inodora also has red genes in there. Yes, I suppose that is a possibility but I've never heard any reports of a red fruit being found. That said, the species is rare enough that a wild red form may still be waiting to be found! When I was in the Bellenden Kerr area trying to locate C. inodora, I eventually found several plants but never any fruit. The tropical rain forest was virtually impenetrable except for a couple of metres alongside cleared areas. |
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Post by pagnr on Jun 7, 2022 16:06:36 GMT -5
You did better than me, I never found an Inodora plant in the wild.
I don't think there are any red fruited inodora in the wild.
I was thinking more that the pigment genes are there, and will express in a hybrid with an orange pigmented parent ??
Something might be similar with C. australasica Finger Limes.
Many pigmented types must have a splash of red pigment, but fruit colour is pink or purple in combo with other pigments.
Khaki and brown skin would seem to be a combo of red and green pigments.
One of my grafted "red" types never gets beyond khaki skin/pink pulp in this climate, so that could be another factor in pigment expression.
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Post by pissp on Jul 26, 2022 8:04:32 GMT -5
Speaking of that Erem x Shek cross, I received a grafted one from Madison Citrus last week! Its got beautiful foliage - I'm excited to watch it develop
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Post by pagnr on Jul 28, 2022 3:55:50 GMT -5
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