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Post by fructose on Jan 9, 2021 20:21:31 GMT -5
Hi all: what are your preferred soil lines for citrus? I'm in the US.
for a variety of reasons its not feasible for me to mix my own medium currently
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Post by poncirusguy on Jan 9, 2021 23:10:46 GMT -5
If you want your tree to live you must make your own soil mix. I have used sand out of street gutter and from roof gutter. Mix with used potting soil. 50/50. Its free.
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Post by fructose on Jan 10, 2021 2:03:51 GMT -5
If you want your tree to live you must make your own soil mix. I have used sand out of street gutter and from roof gutter. Mix with used potting soil. 50/50. Its free. I plan to but currently I am on an extended stay from home. I got some very small plants I'd need to get into soil asap. When I'm home I can transplant to something better. So I need a small bag of pre-made soil as a quick fix
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Post by Laaz on Jan 10, 2021 10:06:11 GMT -5
Either Miracle-Gro or Vigoro garden soil. Never use potting soil, it turns to muck very quickly & doesn't drain well. I also add Turface MVP into the mix.  
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 10, 2021 10:14:11 GMT -5
This is not true. You can use any ordinary medium for plant with a pH not alkaline and not too acid. You only need:
- to keep the draining holes free and not touching the water. For draining.
- to make holes (if your pots don't have them) in the very down part of the sides of the pot. For air circulation.
New pots already have these holes (at least in Europe). You can even use pure compost or high water retaining medium like the ones with peat. It avoids the use of bark chunks, coco fiber or chips, perlite, sand and so on...
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Post by poncirusguy on Jan 10, 2021 11:10:44 GMT -5
Sylvain I stand corrected. My first citrus trees 9 years ago I used pure compost 50/50 with garden soil from my back yard. I knew a lot about soil and it's water flow patterns and knew how to water. Most new people will kill their citrus trees if they use a packaged mix.
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Post by ash on Jan 10, 2021 19:15:04 GMT -5
For a short while anything will do just so long as it keeps the roots damp but not soked.
I normally dead and rotting leafs from a forest floor to mix with my Potting compost so it drains well.. But I've only been doing that for about 6 months so I can't confirm how well the roots go into it.. But I've had no problems with waterlogging since I started doing it and before that with pure store bought soil I'd have serious waterlogging problems..
Although I have realised that my waterlogging problems were caused by putting plants into big pots with pure Potting compost and the soil without roots in it just held water and didn't drain at all.
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Post by Laaz on Jan 10, 2021 19:23:39 GMT -5
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 11, 2021 9:22:17 GMT -5
Poncirusguy, notice that I didn't answered to I believe you when you say it works. I answered to I didn't agree with "you must". Just saying that there are other ways to make you citrus happy. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
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Post by poncirusguy on Jan 11, 2021 10:48:54 GMT -5
Thanks Sylvan I was aware of it. I Worded things poorly in my statement and it kind of sounded dire. I had to stop using the yard soil and potting soil because I couldn't move or aerate the trees in Their 30 gallon containers. I use a 5-1-1mix now so I can move these 30 gallon behemoths and I don't have to aerate them. I used the sand mix for kumquat seedlings and I called it my "Fortunella Formula" It to would be way to heavy for the 10 gallon containers my 4 seedling Meiwa kumquat trees are now in. They are now 4 years old and are all mature and flower profusely.
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Post by ash on Jan 16, 2021 12:28:16 GMT -5
That stuff looks good I think I will buy some
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Post by citradia on Jul 4, 2021 21:25:33 GMT -5
Lazz, what should I get instead of Seramis since I am in the USA and Seramis is sold in Europe? Still a 50:50 ratio? I was going to get pine bark mini nuggets at Lowe’s today to make 511, but looks too big of pieces. The pine mulch looked smaller but still too big.
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Post by Laaz on Jul 5, 2021 7:04:04 GMT -5
Turface MVP, it's about $15 for a 50 pound bag.
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Post by citradia on Jul 5, 2021 7:23:15 GMT -5
Thanks Laaz, now I just need to find a place that sells it.
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Post by Laaz on Jul 5, 2021 7:35:16 GMT -5
Most landscape supply stores sell it. www.turface.com/find-a-distributorIf your IP is correct these are the two closest to you. SiteOne Landscape Supply #284 (828) 651-9967 140 Glenn Bridge Rd Arden, NC 28704 United States 33.41 miles SiteOne Landscape Supply #736 (828)464-8101 2067 Fairgrove Church Rd Newton, NC 28658 United States 42.54 miles
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