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Post by millet on Aug 21, 2019 16:58:17 GMT -5
Laaz I tried your hose method using Dawn Soap and the same bottle you showed in your post. Sorry for a new thread but I could not locate your original post demonstrating the method. I have a couple questions. Do you mix the Dawn with water to make the soap solution less thick? I sprayed 9 large in ground trees (actually 3 times over) and when I was done the soap in the bottle had hardly gone down. Any suggestions or help. I really want your suggestion to work, as I have been using a backpack spray and that method is a real hassle. Appreciate your assistance.
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Post by david on Aug 21, 2019 18:20:29 GMT -5
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brian
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Post by brian on Aug 21, 2019 20:10:05 GMT -5
David, I have that same chapin sprayer. It does not work for me when spraying soap or hort oil. I also tried a chameleon one, and a repurposed disposable hose-end sprayer. None of these worked, they would pick up the concentrate for a very brief time then not at all. I spent hours messing with them, trying to tweak them, but I could never get anywhere close to acceptable performance and went back to my pump sprayer.
i tried varying levels of concentrate including nearly pure water but it would never be picked up consistently
in another thread, I believe Laaz posted that he uses a chameleon sprayer
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Post by toofarnorth on Aug 21, 2019 20:12:26 GMT -5
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Post by david on Aug 21, 2019 20:52:59 GMT -5
Good. I have no trouble with the Chapin sprayer. I guess I got a good one. I thought Lazz used a empty hose end sprayer and just kept filling it. I might be wrong.....my memory is not great.
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toofarnorth
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Post by toofarnorth on Aug 21, 2019 21:31:36 GMT -5
Neither my backpack sprayer or 2 gallon pump up sprayer does well with hort. oil. I have not tried them with soap. My hose end sprayer is a repurposed MG adjustable one.
TFN
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Post by Laaz on Aug 22, 2019 4:58:28 GMT -5
You can use any bottle that attaches to a hose, I just reuse these & fill them with dawn...
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Post by millet on Aug 22, 2019 9:17:17 GMT -5
Lazz you did not answer my question. I used the exact spray you show in the above picture (Cutter Backyard Bug). It is doing the very same thing as Brian's. It draws the Dawn soap up for a brief period then stops. Dawn soap must be two thick for a syphon sprayer. I even thinned the Dawn soap down in half with water and still the same thing. Did you use the soap straight?
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Post by brian on Aug 22, 2019 10:12:01 GMT -5
I wonder if the water line pressure matters, I can't think of many reasons why hose-end sprayers would work fine for some and not at all for others. Maybe try opening the valve part-way only to reduce the pressure and see if you get different results? I never tried that.
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Post by mikkel on Aug 22, 2019 13:35:03 GMT -5
I would be happy to find such a tool in Europe. So far I couldnĀ“t find it. It seems to be very helpful. If someone knows where to find it in Europe please contact me.
Edit: I just found out I can buy it on amazon, but that was the point on my last research the conection to the hose is different from german standards. So it needs an adapter. What kind of hose connector do you use in the US?
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Post by david on Aug 22, 2019 13:36:52 GMT -5
Hose end sprayers work upon the fact that the water passes over the soap vessel creating a syphoning effect. If you do not have a water and air tight system they will not pick up and distribute the soap soloution. This means hose washers in all the appropriate places and good tight connections. If you are drawing air or water at any place they will not pick up the soap. I fought a cheap one for about two weeks. Could not get it to pick up soap....turned out that I had a plastic washer in the bottle. Replaced it with a good rubber washer and it went to work. You have to have a good tight system.
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Post by millet on Aug 22, 2019 20:28:51 GMT -5
David and Brian, thanks. You guys are the best. I will try both suggestions and report back.
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Post by Laaz on Aug 23, 2019 4:58:24 GMT -5
You have to shake the bottle while spraying.
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Post by Laaz on Aug 23, 2019 5:01:16 GMT -5
And you don't want the water pressure on full blast...
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Post by millet on Aug 23, 2019 20:24:25 GMT -5
Thanks again Laaz I'll try again and get back to you. I'll also add David and Brian's tips.
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