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Post by dbrinas on Jul 26, 2019 17:48:41 GMT -5
I'm new to grafting. I have a Nules Clementine graft to a trifoliate. Also please ID the trifoliate. I just inherited the tree with the home. Seems like the old owner did not know the graft failed and the root tree grew. I just happened to notice it had 3 inch thorns and was cutting it down and decided to make the tree a hybrid. Half clementine and half murcott. Anyhow... The root tree is doing well leaves are green. The graft main stem is green but the leaves and new stems stems are yellow. the soil is regularly fertilized. I did spray the new leaves as well and water the soil recently with iron, mag, manganese , sulfur, and zinc Mix To treat. I do not see any symptoms on the root tree leaves and stems. Am I overthinking this and it's just yellow cause its a new graft?
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Post by david on Jul 26, 2019 18:09:32 GMT -5
Looks like standard poncirus. Hard to tell need a closer look. How long has the graft been done? Has it calloused over? Has it been yellow since the graft?
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Post by david on Jul 26, 2019 20:11:09 GMT -5
This could be an incompatibility issue. Thats a lot of rootstock. Is it possible that you have too much rootstock that is using all the nutrients and the graft is getting starved? Top working is better if most of your grafts are near the same level. I cant tell how much rootstock you have from the pic.
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Post by Sylvain on Jul 27, 2019 2:16:23 GMT -5
> Looks like standard poncirus. Seeing the length of the middle leaflet I would say cross of poncirus.
> Is it possible that you have too much rootstock that is using all the nutrients and the graft is getting starved? A young graft on such a big trunk will not starve.
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Post by Laaz on Jul 27, 2019 4:59:38 GMT -5
Rapid new growth will sometimes take longer to darken up...
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Post by dbrinas on Jul 27, 2019 11:16:33 GMT -5
Thanks for all your replies. Makes sense that the tree may feed more of itself than the graft? I was planning on cutting the tops and the rest. Just waiting on the murcotts that I grafted a couple weeks ago to take . Can I remove the tops now you think?
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Post by dbrinas on Jul 27, 2019 11:17:17 GMT -5
Looks like standard poncirus. Hard to tell need a closer look. How long has the graft been done? Has it calloused over? Has it been yellow since the graft? graft was done in May. it has calloused over but not as fast as i thought it would. I made the mistake of taking the parafilm off them and on a windy day i found a couple of dried up grafts on the ground.
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Post by dbrinas on Jul 27, 2019 15:14:07 GMT -5
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Post by david on Jul 27, 2019 15:29:49 GMT -5
It might be. Since the leaves are bigger and the middle is longer it could be Swingle or Carizzo. Not poncirus since you tell me that it does not lose the leaves or go dormant. One of the trifolate crosses.
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Post by dbrinas on Jul 27, 2019 15:43:15 GMT -5
sun leaves about 3 in. and sorta flat. margins not sharp. 2 year stems are striated. the leaves remain about the same color all seasons. swingle or benton?
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Post by david on Jul 27, 2019 17:02:05 GMT -5
I am going to say Benton. The leaves appear not round enough for Swingle. Perhaps someone that uses Benton can give you a better idea.
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Post by dbrinas on Jul 27, 2019 21:06:17 GMT -5
I really wanted a Cutie hybrid tree so I can have a long harvest season. But I just checked on the Murcott grafts, they look like they will fail. I tried grafting W. murcotts last May and it only took the nules clementine. makes me think that this is really a benton . What do you think about grating a Eureka scion which the benton was bred for. then graft a murcott to the eureka once it takes or can I graft the eureka to the root and the murcott to the eureka scion at the same time?
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Post by Laaz on Jul 28, 2019 6:24:52 GMT -5
Being you're in CA, it very well may be C35 which is a very popular rootstock in CA.
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Post by david on Jul 28, 2019 7:18:04 GMT -5
If I were you. I would graft directly to the rootstock. No use in trying an interstock on a situation that has seen scion decline already.....unless you just feel like experimenting. I grafted some lemon on some unknown rootstock I had and the grafted several types of mandrin on to the lemon....just to c what would take place....so far nothing remarkable...just growing.
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Post by dbrinas on Jul 28, 2019 17:07:48 GMT -5
Ok I’m just gonna cut the tops then and let the tree focus on that one graft. I’ll experiment next spring. Thanks for your replies all!
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